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谏诤 - Filial Piety in Relation to Reproof and Remonstrance

English translation: James Legge [?]
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1 谏诤:
曾子曰:“若夫慈爱、恭敬、安亲、扬名,则闻命矣。敢问子从父之令,可谓孝乎?”子曰:“是何言与,是何言与!昔者天子有争臣七人,虽无道,不失其天下;诸侯有争臣五人,虽无道,不失其国;大夫有争臣三人,虽无道,不失其家;士有争友,则身不离于令名;父有争子,则身不陷于不义。故当不义,则子不可以不争于父,臣不可以不争于君;故当不义,则争之。从父之令,又焉得为孝乎!”
Filial Piety in Relation...:
The disciple Zeng said, "I have heard your instructions on the affection of love, on respect and reverence, on giving repose to (the minds of) our parents, and on making our names famous. I would venture to ask if (simple) obedience to the orders of one's father can be pronounced filial piety."
The Master replied, "What words are these! What words are these! Anciently, if the Son of Heaven had seven ministers who would remonstrate with him, although he had not right methods of government, he would not lose his possession of the kingdom. If the prince of a state had five such ministers, though his measures might be equally wrong, he would not lose his state. If a great officer had three, he would not, in a similar case, lose (the headship of) his clan. If an inferior officer had a friend who would remonstrate with him, a good name would not cease to be connected with his character. And the father who had a son that would remonstrate with him would not sink into the gulf of unrighteous deeds. Therefore when a case of unrighteous conduct is concerned, a son must by no means keep from remonstrating with his father, nor a minister from remonstrating with his ruler. Hence, since remonstrance is required in the case of unrighteous conduct, how can (simple) obedience to the orders of a father be accounted filial piety?"

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