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Daoism -> Zhuangzi -> Outer Chapters -> Knowledge Rambling in the North -> 10

冉求仲尼Ran Qiu asked Zhongni, saying,
?」 'Can it be known how it was before heaven and earth?'
仲尼:「The reply was, 'It can.
。」It was the same of old as now.'
冉求退 Ran Qiu asked no more and withdrew.
Next day, however, he had another interview,
and said,
』, 'Yesterday I asked whether it could be known how it was before heaven and earth,
and you, Master, said,
"It can.
。』As it is now, so it was of old."
Yesterday, I seemed to understand you clearly,
but to-day it is dark to me.
?」 I venture to ask you for an explanation of this.'
仲尼 Zhongni said,
'Yesterday you seemed to understand me clearly,
because your own spiritual nature had anticipated my reply.
Today it seems dark to you,
for you are in an unspiritual mood, and are trying to discover the meaning.
(In this matter) there is no old time and no present;
no beginning and no ending.
?」 Could it be that there were grandchildren and children before there were (other) grandchildren and children?'
冉求 Ran Qiu had not made any reply,
仲尼 when Zhongni went on,
'Let us have done.
There can be no answering (on your part).
We cannot with life give life to death;
we cannot with death give death to life.
Do death and life wait (for each other)?
There is that which contains them both in its one comprehension.
Was that which was produced before Heaven and Earth a thing?
That which made things and gave to each its character was not itself a thing.
Things came forth and could not be before things,
as if there had (previously) been things
- as if there had been things (producing one another)
without end.
聖人The love of the sages for others, and never coming to an end,
。」 is an idea taken from this.'


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