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Daoism -> Zhuangzi -> Outer Chapters -> Knowledge Rambling in the North -> 8

Starlight asked Non-entity, saying,
'Master, do you exist?
?」 or do you not exist?'
He got no answer to his question, however,
and looked stedfastly to the appearance of the other,
which was that of a deep void.
All day long he looked to it, but could see nothing;
he listened for it, but could hear nothing;
he clutched at it, but got hold of nothing.
:「Starlight then said, 'Perfect!
Who can attain to this?
I can (conceive the ideas of) existence and non-existence,
but I cannot (conceive the ideas of) non-existing non-existence,
and still there be a nonexisting existence.
!」 How is it possible to reach to this?'


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